289 intake set up

[comethead]

Like Roy said I have the stock cast iron 4v manifold and a 66 1.08 Autolite 4100. My engine is stock. Runs great all the time and I can burn (a little) rubber at will.

Hey Pop the big money carbs are the 1.08s 64-66. 3rd and 4th digits ZF or GF.

Joe

[oldhot65]

Thanks for the input guys you have all been very helpful. Waiting for a jeggs catalog before I buy , however I really like the edelbrock package just price shopping for now. The carb in the kit has a electric choke gona see if I can get Manuel instead. Current 2bl has no choke its a holley not sure of the size but plan on putting headers on so I'll be loosening low end with the 2bl. 4bl sounds better when your foot is in it any way.

[comethead]

I believe the Edelbrock manual choke carbs have more performance oriented jets/settings compared to their auto choke carbs. Bonus!

Joe

[bmmaurer]

Hi, Here's the set-up that will make you smile... Guaranteed!

I visited my Father-in-law over Christmas and he showed me his new "toy". He had purchased a '65 Sunbeam Tiger. FYI a Sunbeam Tiger is a British sports car with a FORD 260 and then a 289 V-8 stuffed in it. The engine package was designed with help from Shelby. The car ran so much better than my Edelbrock 500 cfm Performer on top of a Performer 289 intake with a Performer cam.

What I'm saying is forget the Edelbrock carb idea, Go with a Holley 0-1848-1 vaccum secondary 465cfm 4bbl carb with the Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and a Edelbrock Performer cam set-up.

Why do I say this? Shelby got together in the mid '60s to design an "super induction" system for the Sunbeam Tiger call the LAT 1 package. It consisted of a Holley 0-1848-1 465 cfm 4bbl carb, the Edelbrock 4FB intake manifold and a mild cam. Here is the info on the induction package...

http://www.team.net/html/tigers/1998-01/msg00084.html

Why this set-up? I just finished putting this carb on my 260 with a Performer Intake and a Performer cam and the car runs $^*(%^^%(%$ Perfect. SO much better thatn the 500 cfm Edelbrock Performer carb with all their screwed up tune up spring and jet set. Out of the box this thing is perfect. Here's the carb info from Holley. I got one open box for $320.00 from Summit (sharksmotorsports) on ebay.

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_sy ... s/0-1848-1

Since Carrol Shelby designed this induction system for the 260/289 V-8's, I would trust his expertise over all our buds here. (and they're good)

If you still want to go with a Edelbrock, I'll sell you the one I just took off with the tune up kit. I would stay away from the finicky, rich running Edelbrock.

Here's Some pics...

[Comechero65]

I happen to have a Holley 1848. Don't know if it's an 1848 or 1848-1. Is there a difference? as far as I know the 1848 is a 600 cfm rated. Never tried but I have a rebuild kit for it and the electric choke conversion kit.
Right now I'm running a C4GF-AF w/1.08 vent. Thought I might give the Holley a try out someday.
Ron

[albert]

Like Roy said I have the stock cast iron 4v manifold and a 66 1.08 Autolite 4100. My engine is stock. Runs great all the time and I can burn (a little) rubber at will.

Hey Pop the big money carbs are the 1.08s 64-66. 3rd and 4th digits ZF or GF.

Joe

Yes agree, I am running the Autolite 4100 C5ZF-C with 1.08 venturi which is the factory correct carb for a 65 Comet 289. Car runs great. These are the carbs that fetch $500 in excellent condition, if you can even find one.

[bmmaurer]

Holley 1848 is a 465 cfm carb. read my post above...

Comet Bruce

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_sy ... s/0-1848-1

[popscomet]

Like Roy said I have the stock cast iron 4v manifold and a 66 1.08 Autolite 4100. My engine is stock. Runs great all the time and I can burn (a little) rubber at will.

Hey Pop the big money carbs are the 1.08s 64-66. 3rd and 4th digits ZF or GF.

Joe

thanks ,i'll be digging them out and going up to my buddy's and check his stash out,,,,,In JMO JOE,you have the best set-up for dependable everyday driving and looking good while you do it pop

[oldhot65]

Think I'm gona keep existing cam and go with 4bl and intake if it don't perform the way I like I might save up for a new motor

[gmsnowball]

Hi, Here's the set-up that will make you smile... Guaranteed!

I visited my Father-in-law over Christmas and he showed me his new "toy". He had purchased a '65 Sunbeam Tiger. FYI a Sunbeam Tiger is a British sports car with a FORD 260 and then a 289 V-8 stuffed in it. The engine package was designed with help from Shelby. The car ran so much better than my Edelbrock 500 cfm Performer on top of a Performer 289 intake with a Performer cam.

What I'm saying is forget the Edelbrock carb idea, Go with a Holley 0-1848-1 vaccum secondary 465cfm 4bbl carb with the Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and a Edelbrock Performer cam set-up.

Why do I say this? Shelby got together in the mid '60s to design an "super induction" system for the Sunbeam Tiger call the LAT 1 package. It consisted of a Holley 0-1848-1 465 cfm 4bbl carb, the Edelbrock 4FB intake manifold and a mild cam. Here is the info on the induction package...

http://www.team.net/html/tigers/1998-01/msg00084.html

Why this set-up? I just finished putting this carb on my 260 with a Performer Intake and a Performer cam and the car runs $^*(%^^%(%$ Perfect. SO much better thatn the 500 cfm Edelbrock Performer carb with all their screwed up tune up spring and jet set. Out of the box this thing is perfect. Here's the carb info from Holley. I got one open box for $320.00 from Summit (sharksmotorsports) on ebay.

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_sy ... s/0-1848-1

Since Carrol Shelby designed this induction system for the 260/289 V-8's, I would trust his expertise over all our buds here. (and they're good)

If you still want to go with a Edelbrock, I'll sell you the one I just took off with the tune up kit. I would stay away from the finicky, rich running Edelbrock.

Here's Some pics...

Bruce, did you paint your aluminum radiator black?

.

[bmmaurer]

Black in the front and sides and top, Aluminum (unpainted) on the back.

Do not like the look of Aluminum Rad from the front thru the grill...



Comet Bruce

[barrys65cyclone]

my suggestion if you want aftermarket intake use weiand part # 8124 and use Autolite 4100 1.12 will be fine I know everyone will say use 1.08 and that is fine but the correct 1.08 is pricey a good 1.12 will work fine I have done several just have to pick one with correct boosters and the 1.12 is factory rated at 600 cfm but its not close more like 540 cfm and remember 64 comet 289 ran 1.12 and they ran great. hit me up if you decide to use 4100

[comethead]

my suggestion if you want aftermarket intake use weiand part # 8124 and use Autolite 4100 1.12 will be fine I know everyone will say use 1.08 and that is fine but the correct 1.08 is pricey a good 1.12 will work fine I have done several just have to pick one with correct boosters and the 1.12 is factory rated at 600 cfm but its not close more like 540 cfm and remember 64 comet 289 ran 1.12 and they ran great. hit me up if you decide to use 4100

Comparing the Weiand 8124 and the Edelbrock Performer it looks like the side flanges of the carb mount pad are wider on the Weiand intake. I've read that some guys have trouble with vacuum leaks using a 4100 at the thinner flange sides of the Performer.
Also, it appears that the Weiand will mount the stock linkage bellcrank. Is this correct?
Seems like a great intake!

Weiand


Edelbrock


Joe

[popscomet]

JUST went out and started my 1977 bronco,it has not been started in a near month,as it's snowing and has been all day and it's slick around here,thought I might need it,,,,pumped it a couple of times ,hit the starter and she busted right off,held it at a just above idle for a few sec's and came back in the shop to let warm up and defrost,,,,,it has a bone stock high miles 302,years ago,I put a 289 ci intake with a 390cfm,holly4bbl,electric choke ,that I made un-op when I put it on,,this carb was taken right out of the box and bolted on,,never no problems and gets great mileage....sometimes these big cfm carbs ain't the way to go ,in my book..we also found out on these high rev;ing,2.3 4cyl in these race cars,that a 3.50 cfm holly is better then a worked 500 holly....so bigger,,ain't always better,,,,been there..done that !! POP

[albert]

JUST went out and started my 1977 bronco,it has not been started in a near month,as it's snowing and has been all day and it's slick around here,thought I might need it,,,,pumped it a couple of times ,hit the starter and she busted right off,held it at a just above idle for a few sec's and came back in the shop to let warm up and defrost,,,,,it has a bone stock high miles 302,years ago,I put a 289 ci intake with a 390cfm,holly4bbl,electric choke ,that I made un-op when I put it on,,this carb was taken right out of the box and bolted on,,never no problems and gets great mileage....sometimes these big cfm carbs ain't the way to go ,in my book..we also found out on these high rev;ing,2.3 4cyl in these race cars,that a 3.50 cfm holly is better then a worked 500 holly....so bigger,,ain't always better,,,,been there..done that !! POP

Pops, I couldn't agree with you more, the smaller cfm carbs work better! The local car club that I am in have a lot of guys who do some serious drag racing at Englishtown (about 10 miles from where I live) and they all talk about how they have successfully used smaller cfm carbs on their drag cars over the years.