1965 Caliente 4 barrel.

[cyclone460]

Yes you have to be careful with all this "it's a rare Hipo Shelby" part bs. You'll know when it's a truly rare part. Either it'll cost $1000 or it's gone so fast your head spins!
Btw I have a few cast iron C5xx 4 bbl intakes. I'm not sure where your located but if your interested I can check the date codes to see if I have one close to your build date. Your engine build date is on a small machined flat spot near the distributer.

Joe

Thanks Joe. I thought the build date of the car would be the same as on the engine. I didnt know that. Every day is a school day! I will check that date on the motor and get back to you. I live by the Ford plant in Chicago. Thanks

[comethead]

From what I understand the assembly line would have a lot of engines ready to go to install in the cars. The engines were delivered to the line all ready to drop in. The engine assembly shop built them up and stamped the completion date on it. It should be the same as any other component; within a few weeks of the cars build date.
Here's mine:



The flat pad near the water pump mount bolt.
Also, if your interested in getting your engine as close to correct as possible I highly recommend Bob Mannels small block book. It has insane details. Mannels a member of the Fairlane club of America.
http://www.fordsmallblock.com

Joe

[bmmaurer]

Pops is correct, during the 64 and newer intakes, the PCV went to the Valve cover and the 3 bolt passage on the back of the manifold was not even machined for this set-up.

See attached manual references.

http://falconfaq.dyndns.org/display1.ph ... Page=8-052

http://falconfaq.dyndns.org/display1.ph ... Page=8-050

http://falconfaq.dyndns.org/display1.ph ... Page=8-051

Comet Bruce

[comethead]

There were C4 and C5 intakes with the rear intake breather machined open like the original poster mentioned. It was for a road draft tube.

Joe

[CALIFORNIA CALIENTE]

Joe;I keep reading about the engine build date on that pad,I have NEVER seen this on any 289,and I have built WAY too many!! I have built 6-10 original,standard bore blocks too,could see it missing on a rebuilt block/engine!! Strange stuff from FoMoCo,glad I'm not a restorer,this date code stuff would drive me crazy[more than I already am]!!!! ROY.

[albert]

When I worked for Ford in the mid 60's at the Oakville Canada assembly plant they always closed the plant for usually 2 weeks at the end of July for retooling for the next model year. The first week in August was a test week to make sure everything was set up properly for production of that next year's models. So production on 1965's would have begun in August 1964. And they always used up any common parts that were left over from the previous model year for that particular model.

[popscomet]

I just realled,my 64 built on sept 20,1963,had a 64 and a 63 head on it when I tore it down the very 1st time....pop

[comethead]

Joe;I keep reading about the engine build date on that pad,I have NEVER seen this on any 289,and I have built WAY too many!! I have built 6-10 original,standard bore blocks too,could see it missing on a rebuilt block/engine!! Strange stuff from FoMoCo,glad I'm not a restorer,this date code stuff would drive me crazy[more than I already am]!!!! ROY.

Roy that's interesting. The 289 in my Comet has the date code stamp and so does the 67 289 going in the wife's Falcon. I also have a 68 302 that has it. Must have something to do with where the engine was originally assembled.

Joe

[CALIFORNIA CALIENTE]

Joe;you may be onto something there!! ROY.

[comethead]

I just realled,my 64 built on sept 20,1963,had a 64 and a 63 head on it when I tore it down the very 1st time....pop

Pop were they basically the same heads except for the numbers??

Joe

[comethead]

When I worked for Ford in the mid 60's at the Oakville Canada assembly plant they always closed the plant for usually 2 weeks at the end of July for retooling for the next model year. The first week in August was a test week to make sure everything was set up properly for production of that next year's models. So production on 1965's would have begun in August 1964. And they always used up any common parts that were left over from the previous model year for that particular model.

Albert thanks for the info. You have a great perspective on the "factory correct" aspect of the hobby

Joe

[ants875]

Joe;I keep reading about the engine build date on that pad,I have NEVER seen this on any 289,and I have built WAY too many!! I have built 6-10 original,standard bore blocks too,could see it missing on a rebuilt block/engine!! Strange stuff from FoMoCo,glad I'm not a restorer,this date code stuff would drive me crazy[more than I already am]!!!! ROY.

Roy that's interesting. The 289 in my Comet has the date code stamp and so does the 68 289 going in the wife's Falcon. I also have a 68 302 that has it. Must have something to do with where the engine was originally assembled.

Joe

Joe and Roy,

I can't tell from the pic but is that flat spot on the same plane as the head surface? Could it get machined off when the block is decked?

Ant

[popscomet]

I just realled,my 64 built on sept 20,1963,had a 64 and a 63 head on it when I tore it down the very 1st time....pop

Pop were they basically the same heads except for the numbers??

Joe

YES-SIR,JOE..the same exact head !! just different numbers !! If my memory serves me correct,the head man,had a pair of 63 289 heads with the small chamber or least that what he said,they were already completly re-built,I traded my old ones in and took the 63's and thats what on my 64 289 today....and has been for 20 some odd years.......pop

[CALIFORNIA CALIENTE]

Anthony;I begining to think that is what may have happened!!! ROY.

[comethead]

Here's the engine build date code on a 1967 289. This ones going in my wife's 64 Falcon:



It says 7D17W. April 17, 1967. W is the shift inspector code (according to Mannel).
Ant, your probably right. Made it a convenient spot to stamp the date.

Joe