200 six manual transmission choice

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200 six manual transmission choice

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I installed a 200 CI 6 from a 68 Mustang in my 202 Comet. The 202 was an automatic. I have installed the Z bar and pedals so I can install a standard transmission. What transmission would best fit and work? I have a 3 speed manual from a 65 Falcon but I think it may need an overhaul. I also have a 4 speed from a 289 Cyclone but I would like to save it for my Ranchero project. I believe the 200 6 has a 6 bolt pattern. I will need everything from the block back and probably the pilot bushing as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: 200 six manual transmission choice

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by 1968 your 200 should have the 'dual drilled' bellhouse pattern and FW unique to the later 170/200 small block six.. Providing 200 does have the larger bellhouse pattern, any manual 200 with a "TOPLOADER" 3 speed will have a Bellhouse that can use the strong-all synchro 3.03 Toploader used in all small six and small block non-HiPo cars. The 4 Spd 'Toploader" will fit but Hi=Po Toploaders are different. There are also 'Imposter' 4 speed Toploaders with an Overdrive available which also bolt to 200 six unique bellhouse.

The earlier '2.77 non-synchro 3 speed "peanut" tranny uses a different bellhouse,clutch, FW and linkage.



The later Toploader Bellhouse also accepts later diaphragm 9" clutches for smoother shifts (Fairmont/Mustang etc) .

Toploader 3 speeds - Mustang with floor shifter bosses and Maverick w/o for column 3OTT.
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for a huge improvement in drivability, there are adapter plates available that convert Toploader Bellhouse to accept the 5spd T5 Overdrive transmission. The T5 will bolt right to the 200 Bell - W/Adapter BUT requires some modification and/fabrication.


I use a Maverick 170 (C8DE) and Bellhouse (# C7ZA ) on the '63 Wagon with an adapter plate to a T5 to original 3.50:1 rear.. Rear mount, body crossmember and DS needed some modification. Original Z-bar clutch linkage with slight mod' is used.

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I found it strange that my '76 Comet still used the SMALL PATTERN bellhouse pattern from original 144 Falcon motor for the C4!.

I never learned to drive an automatic...


have fun



Dual drilled bellhouse pattern block.
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small bell pattern C4 bell on '76:
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Re: 200 six manual transmission choice

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Great information, thanks. Now all I need to do is find a good top loader 3 or 4 speed that will fit, If none are available I may just stick a C4 back in it. I have already installed the pedals, Z bar, new non auto radiator, new Hurst 3 speed shifter, removed the auto shift collar etc but I could go back with an auto if I have to.
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Re: 200 six manual transmission choice

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gmsnowball wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:13 pm
I have already installed the pedals, Z bar, new non auto radiator, new Hurst 3 speed shifter, removed the auto shift collar etc but I could go back with an auto if I have to.
You should be able to find a 3.03 Toploader pretty reasonably priced.

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Re: 200 six manual transmission choice

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I have a top loader 4 speed and a 5 bolt bell housing on a built 289 I was saving for another project. Will the 5 bolt bell housing bolt up to the dual bolt pattern 200 ?
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Re: 200 six manual transmission choice

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Rebuild kits and parts aren't that expensive for the 3.03 you already own.

Just a thought....

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