Why are these pieces missing?

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Why are these pieces missing?

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Hello everyone. I have a 1964 Comet 202 that is a resto- mod project. There are two items missing from my car, The drivers side mirror and there is no windshield washer bag or pump. someone replaced the side mirror with some 1980s style mirror but i hate it. Did the car come from the factory with out these items? Were they dealer installed items only? I've seen different style mirrors so I don't know what style is correct. is there a relatively easy way to add a windshield washer system? Any input would be appreciated.

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Mirrors were dealer installed, I think most were round mirrors but I guess they could be anything, I know they can be installed just about anywhere on the door.

The washer system is factory installed I think but it is an option and I would guess the 202 (like mine) being a base model was probably rare to find one with it factory-installed, the washer system is a manual pump that mounts on the floor near the dimmer switch but has an electrical part to it that activates the wipers.

As far as adding the washer system you can do an electric pump with a switch, no one makes the nozzles, however.

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My 64 has the rectangular style rear view mirror on the door that is the original mirror but i have seen quite a few 64s with the round mirror. i wonder why they used different ones on different cars.
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POP's 64 has a round mirror.,,,I wish I had filled the holes and not put it back on when I redone it yrs ago,,,,to me it looks so much cleaner without the outside mirror,jmo.....pop
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smithhe wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:49 pm
My 64 has the rectangular style rear view mirror on the door that is the original mirror but i have seen quite a few 64s with the round mirror. i wonder why they used different ones on different cars.
Probably used what they had, my original is round but I have seen them like yours in rectangle as well, I would imagine if you were really cheap you could get one with no mirror and install your own or do without depending on the regulations where you lived.

I am going to weld up the mirror holes on my door and move it, mine was mounted rearward of the vent window and looks wrong to me, I am also going to go dual mirrors so will buy a set that match, I kinda like the rectangular mirrors, they seem to be a better match on a square body Comet IMO but who knows what I will end up with :roll:

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My '65 Caliente only has a driver side mirror but the original buyer spent the extra coin to get the remote adjuster version. Seems strange they'd do that and not pay an extra few bucks for a passenger side unit.

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Muttley wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:33 am
My '65 Caliente only has a driver side mirror but the original buyer spent the extra coin to get the remote adjuster version. Seems strange they'd do that and not pay an extra few bucks for a passenger side unit.
is the remote adjustment not a standard option on these comets? i always assumed it was, also i have only seen maybe two rectangular passenger side mirrors for these cars and both times they were over $400 :shock:
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smithhe wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:45 am
Muttley wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:33 am
My '65 Caliente only has a driver side mirror but the original buyer spent the extra coin to get the remote adjuster version. Seems strange they'd do that and not pay an extra few bucks for a passenger side unit.
is the remote adjustment not a standard option on these comets? i always assumed it was, also i have only seen maybe two rectangular passenger side mirrors for these cars and both times they were over $400 :shock:
It is my belief that in 1964 an outside mirror was a dealer installed option. My Cyclone was four years old when I bought it and had a remote LH mirror but I know for sure that it was not factory installed. The three holes on the door (two mounting one cables) were too crude to be done at the factory, and the inside hole for the adjuster hole on the inside looked as if it was done with a dull chisel. I have since welded the holes and re cut them properly I have also added a R.H. mirror. As you mentioned the mirrors are not inexpensive but not being able to see traffic around you and being involved in an accident is not cheap either.
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My 65 has no side mirrors and I see no evidence it ever had them. I've owned it for 26 years. Looked inside the door and no noticable repair.
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I wonder if these mirrors are any good?

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This what the washer pump looks like, I grabbed this picture from eBay;
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Once again my fellow members have come to the rescue. thank you to everyone who chipped in their two cents. The more I learn the more I find the 202 model was a hodge podge of available parts and options.

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joswald wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:19 pm
Once again my fellow members have come to the rescue. thank you to everyone who chipped in their two cents. The more I learn the more I find the 202 model was a hodge podge of available parts and options.
Not just the 202 but almost the whole model line was similar. Unlike today you could actually build what you wanted in the '60s, I assume if you wanted a 202 (or any trim level) with a V8, 4 speed, and bucket seats you could tick the boxes on the order form and get one, I would think that would be a pretty rare build and you would have to have the build sheet to confirm it came that way if one was concerned with a rare original, I am thankful my 202 came with no boxes checked, probably wasn't special order but dealer stock and it is not so rare that I wouldn't want to drive it or modify it, the way it is I have not damaged some rare classic by changing things to make it mine, I am trying to keep it true to the 60s or early 70s, except for the air ride and a few other mechanical additions the car could have been built in 1975 (M2 was around then, just not too many 5 speeds, I guess I could have put a 4-speed knob on the shifter, or left the plain one that was on there)

In the old days, there was much more dealer options than now, it is funny to think the A/C was a dealer option, I am not sure when it became a factory-installed unit but I would guess sometime in the mid to late '60s (on ordinary cars, not stuff like Lincolns) I wish you could still order a car and have it built but I think those days are long gone.

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I have 2 round mirrors I took off my 65. Pretty sure they are factory mirrors. I replaced them with rectangular mirrors and moved them back on the door a little bit so that you could use the right hand one. Anyway you can have them if you like. There in pretty good shape.
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lavron wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:24 pm


In the old days, there was much more dealer options than now, it is funny to think the A/C was a dealer option, I am not sure when it became a factory-installed unit but I would guess sometime in the mid to late '60s

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True you could get one at the dealer but they were a factory option in 65. I'm not sure about 64 but I would think so. the misconception is because factory air was an underdash unit like many dealer add on's.
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lavron wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:24 pm
In the old days, there was much more dealer options than now, it is funny to think the A/C was a dealer option
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