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cross member

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:29 pm
by flatheadgary
does anybody have a pic of the part of the cross member that bolts in and holds the trans in. also, is it the same as a falcon? my '64 didn't come with one. maybe someone has an extra one willing to sell. it seems like their few and far between around here. thanks, gary

Re: cross member

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:54 pm
by DesertRat
Not sure it matters, manual or automatic transmission?

Re: cross member

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:46 pm
by poboyjo65
Yea I think I got one ,may not have the park brake lever on it I'll look tomorrow for it so see.I may have 2 of them. I think they are all the same but may use different trans mounts. yep same as falcon.

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:12 am
by DesertRat
Yeah I could use one for my 65 T-10 Cyclone too.
DR

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:57 am
by poboyjo65
DesertRat wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:12 am
Yeah I could use one for my 65 T-10 Cyclone too.
DR
I'll look for both of them this evening.

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:01 pm
by power band
The swaps I've done on 61 and 63 cars used different length cantilever spring with OEM crossmember for different trannys - 2.77 vs Dagenham vs Fordo' automatic.

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Question please:
You guys with HiPo 64/65 Comet setups: - do you still use the Cantilever spring tranny mount?.

Many swap out to the aftermarket style "C4 Conversion Tranny mount" which seems a better choice. I use the aftermarket and adapt it for HiPo use.

... popular aftermarket "C4 Conversion Tranny mount" for 60-65 (?) :

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T5 with notched xmember and aftermarket mount - OEM Xmember cutting needs help to maintain structural integrity:
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modified mount and xmember for cut/notched OEM body crossmember to fit T5 tranny shift box - attaches to frame connectors:

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(61 Comet was 2.77 swapped to 3.03 then T5 - '63 Wagon was 2.77 swapped to Dagenham then T5.)
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have fun

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:32 pm
by Joe Travers
power band wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:01 pm
Question please:
You guys with HiPo 64/65 Comet setups: - do you still use the Cantilever spring tranny mount?.
'63 1/2 Borg-Warner T-10B, yep. Use vibration damper as well on tailshaft.
Don't know about the later T-10H.

JT

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:17 pm
by barrys65cyclone
Toploader takes a different spring than T10 as well

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:37 pm
by A/FX
I did not want an aftermarket mount and the spring on my factory mount was cracked. (BW T10)
I decided to duplicate the shape of the spring in half inch steel, I formed the shape and drilled the necessary holes. I did not use the factory type parking brake hardware because it interfered with my driveline and exhaust system.
Jim
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Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:46 pm
by power band
..." decided to duplicate the shape of the spring in half inch steel"

... NICE!, that oughta' hold it, and not much spring in that steel I bet 8)

have fun

Re: cross member

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:27 pm
by Joe Travers
A/FX wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:37 pm
I did not use the factory type parking brake hardware because it interfered with my driveline and exhaust system.
Nice touch, Jim! :idea:
I have all the original hardware but cable disconnected for reasons stated.

JT

Re: cross member

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:52 pm
by flatheadgary
wow!! i didn't expect so many replies. thanks alot. i am sorry for not saying what trans i had. i thought about it and got busy and forgot to post it. i am swapping in a 302/c4 from a '79 ford truck i had that was junk. it orignally had a 6/automatic from what the owner told me. i don't know what auto as it didn't come with them and he didn't say. it looks like some kind of cradle is what i need but what do i know? thanks again, gary

Re: cross member

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:42 am
by comethead
flatheadgary wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:52 pm
wow!! i didn't expect so many replies. thanks alot. i am sorry for not saying what trans i had. i thought about it and got busy and forgot to post it. i am swapping in a 302/c4 from a '79 ford truck i had that was junk. it orignally had a 6/automatic from what the owner told me. i don't know what auto as it didn't come with them and he didn't say. it looks like some kind of cradle is what i need but what do i know? thanks again, gary
I ditched the original style with the leaf spring. The C4 conversion mount uses the standard rubber mount you can get anywhere.
Here’s the conversion style https://www.ebay.com/itm/203081250651

Joe

Re: cross member

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:49 pm
by flatheadgary
thanks joe. just what i was looking for.