1965 v8 rad hose configuration?

[iglooman]

For a 289 in a 65 which configuration are the rad hoses suppose to be?

Both on passenger side?

gary

[Joe Travers]

Yep.
302 is driver side on the bottom. You can use 289 water pump on 302 if you use 289 rad.
Either way, water pump and rad need to match.

Joe

[iglooman]

Yep.
302 is driver side on the bottom. You can use 289 water pump on 302 if you use 289 rad.
Either way, water pump and rad need to match.

Joe

Awesome....thanks

[Jims65cyclone]

302 is driver side on the bottom. You can use 289 water pump on 302 if you use 289 rad.

Interesting. PO told me my car has a 302 out of a 69 Fairlane 500 in it, but the lower hose is on the passenger side of pump. Seems that would either mean:
a. I actually still have a 289 in my car and the PO either didn't know the true history, or purposely mislead me for some reason, OR
b. The 302 water pump was changed out with one for a 289 at some point.

Guess I'll find out the truth when I tear down the engine and can check some numbers.

Jim

[comethead]

Hey Jim the NPD website lists a RH inlet 65-69 cast iron water pump p/n #8501-2A https://www.npdlink.com/1965-1973-musta ... pump/pumps
If you click on the “View All Applications” button you’ll see a note that says “Some late 69s may have a LH inlet”. So there was a change there in late 69. I’ll take a look at my SBF book tomorrow to get some details on this.
Pump #8501-7A is the 69-73 LH inlet pump.

Joe

[Lou's Comet]

Interesting. PO told me my car has a 302 out of a 69 Fairlane 500 in it, but the lower hose is on the passenger side of pump. Seems that would either mean:
a. I actually still have a 289 in my car and the PO either didn't know the true history, or purposely mislead me for some reason, OR
b. The 302 water pump was changed out with one for a 289 at some point.

Guess I'll find out the truth when I tear down the engine and can check some numbers.

Jim

Jim,

Joe (comethead) is correct. In 1970 (and some late 69's) they changed hose from pass side to drivers side on the 302 water pump. They also went from a 3 bolt crank pulley to a 4 bolt crank pulley, the timing marks went from drivers side to pass side, different rad, and think brackets and water pump pulley were changed.

So your engine could easily be a 69 302 with pass side rad hose. It would also have 3 bolt crank pulley.

Lou

[Joe Travers]

Interesting. PO told me my car has a 302 out of a 69 Fairlane 500 in it, but the lower hose is on the passenger side of pump. Seems that would either mean:
a. I actually still have a 289 in my car and the PO either didn't know the true history, or purposely mislead me for some reason, OR
b. The 302 water pump was changed out with one for a 289 at some point.

Guess I'll find out the truth when I tear down the engine and can check some numbers.

Jim

Was referring to igloo's 302 engine (if he were to install it).
I had a '70 302 in my Cyclone and changed the water pump to passenger side to eliminate rusting steel crossover mess formed from two hoses

Joe

[Jims65cyclone]

Thanks, guys. Sounds like I probably have an early '69 302. The water inlet is on the passenger's side, and my timing mark is on the driver's side. the car is parked nose-in against the garage wall at the moment, so I can't get to the engine compartment without moving it, but when I do, I'll check the crank pully for a bolt count. If it has 3, that should pretty well cinch it being an early '69 302.

Jim

[poboyjo65]

Thanks, guys. Sounds like I probably have an early '69 302. The water inlet is on the passenger's side, and my timing mark is on the driver's side. the car is parked nose-in against the garage wall at the moment, so I can't get to the engine compartment without moving it, but when I do, I'll check the crank pully for a bolt count. If it has 3, that should pretty well cinch it being an early '69 302.

Jim

Jim look at the little pad in front of the driverside head for an engine build date code. if the block has not been decked it should still be there & easy to see;

[Jims65cyclone]

What does yours decode as?

Jim

[poboyjo65]

What does yours decode as?

Jim

Jim I think dec 26 1964 afaik.

[Joe Travers]

Thanks, guys. Sounds like I probably have an early '69 302. The water inlet is on the passenger's side, and my timing mark is on the driver's side. the car is parked nose-in against the garage wall at the moment, so I can't get to the engine compartment without moving it, but when I do, I'll check the crank pully for a bolt count. If it has 3, that should pretty well cinch it being an early '69 302.

Cross reference the casting number from the block pan rail behind the starter to the date stamp John showed you to find the day and year. You don't have to pull the starter. You can use a mirror and a penlight to read it.

When I bought my '63, the guy insisted it had a 289. When I got it on the lift to inspect it, found it had heavy 4 bolt damper on the crank and figured it was 302 w/ the 289 water pump conversion. All original sheetmetal under the car with no rust. Ran the codes on door plate and verified it was a factory 4 speed car. Magnet test on rockers and panels, passed. Handed over the check.

Two years ago, found a guy w/ a ton of Ford stuff including many project cars. He had about a dozen engines sitting on stands in his shop for sale. He was particularly proud of one FE that had a tag that read '428 CJ'. He pointed to factory sticker on valve cover, read 428. Had Autolite 4300 on it and two bolts on exhaust flanges on the heads.

Joe